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SBIN ETF vs NEXT50IETF hedge notional check

Can you calcuate the net position - Type Instrument Product Qty. Avg. price Status 15:04:21 BUY SBINEQWETF NSE CNC 12000 / 12000 34.29 COMPLETE 15:02:58 BUY SBINEQWETF NSE CNC 16835 / 28000 34.21 CANCELLED - PARTIAL 13:49:12 BUY SBINEQWETF NSE CNC 15 / 15 34.22 COMPLETE 13:48:39 BUY SBINEQWETF NSE CNC 0 / 15 34.16 CANCELLED 13:29:18 BUY NEXT50IETF NSE CNC 70 / 70 78.39 COMPLETE 13:28:56 BUY NEXT50IETF NSE CNC 2200 / 2200 78.41 COMPLETE 13:26:14 BUY NIFTY 27DEC 27000 PE NFO NRML 65 / 65 1,622.85 COMPLETE 12:46:54 BUY NEXT50IETF NSE CNC 10000 / 10000 78.43 COMPLETE 12:45:32 BUY SETFNN50 NSE CNC 3 / 1000 796.11 CANCELLED - PARTIAL - is the hedge less than the notional or more

about 11 hours ago
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Let me parse these transactions and calculate the net position.

Transaction Breakdown

SBI Nifty 50 Equal Weight ETF (SBINEQWETF)

Time Action Qty Executed Qty Ordered Avg Price Status
15:04:21 BUY 12,000 12,000 ₹34.29 Complete
15:02:58 BUY 16,835 28,000 ₹34.21 Partial
13:49:12 BUY 15 15 ₹34.22 Complete
13:48:39 BUY 0 15 ₹34.16 Cancelled

SBINEQWETF total: 28,850 shares

Nifty Next 50 ETF (NEXT50IETF)

Time Action Qty Executed Qty Ordered Avg Price Status
13:29:18 BUY 70 70 ₹78.39 Complete
13:28:56 BUY 2,200 2,200 ₹78.41 Complete
12:46:54 BUY 10,000 10,000 ₹78.43 Complete

NEXT50IETF total: 12,270 shares

SBI Nifty Next 50 ETF (SETFNN50)

Time Action Qty Executed Qty Ordered Avg Price Status
12:45:32 BUY 3 1,000 ₹796.11 Partial

SETFNN50 total: 3 shares

Nifty 27DEC 27000 PE (Put Option)

Time Action Qty Avg Price
13:26:14 BUY 65 ₹1,622.85

Net Position Summary

Instrument Long Qty Avg Price Notional Value (₹)
SBINEQWETF 28,850 ~₹34.24 ~₹9,87,737
NEXT50IETF 12,270 ~₹78.42 ~₹9,62,213
SETFNN50 3 ₹796.11 ~₹2,388
Total Long Notional ~₹19,52,339

Hedge Analysis

Details
Hedge Instrument Nifty 27DEC 27000 PE
Qty 65 lots
Premium Paid ₹1,622.85 × 65 = ₹1,05,485
Notional Covered 65 × 25 (lot size) × 27,000 = ~₹4.39 Cr

The put option covers a notional of ~₹4.39 crore, while your long equity position is only ~₹19.5 lakh.

The hedge notional is ~22.5x larger than your long position — you are significantly over-hedged. The put premium of ~₹1.05 lakh also represents about 5.4% of your equity notional, which is a meaningful cost relative to the position size.

about 11 hours ago
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No. Lot size is 65. That 25 is unncessary

about 11 hours ago
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You're right — sorry about that. Let me correct:

The 65 in the trade data is the number of shares (not lots). Nifty options have a lot size of 25, so 65 shares = the executed quantity directly.


Corrected Hedge Analysis

Details
Hedge Instrument Nifty 27DEC 27000 PE
Qty 65 shares
Premium Paid ₹1,622.85 × 65 = ₹1,05,485
Notional Covered 65 × 27,000 = ₹17,55,000 (~₹17.55 L)

Hedge vs Notional Comparison

Amount (₹)
Total Long Notional ~₹19,52,339
Put Notional Covered ~₹17,55,000
Hedge Coverage ~89.9%

The hedge is slightly less than the notional — covering about 90% of your long equity position. A ~₹1.97 lakh portion remains unhedged.

about 11 hours ago
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Is the hedge good in terms of correlation?

about 11 hours ago
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To assess whether the hedge is good in terms of correlation, I need to compare what you're long versus what you're hedging with.

  • Your long positions: SBI Nifty 50 Equal Weight ETF + Nifty Next 50 ETFs (NEXT50IETF and SETFNN50)
  • Your hedge: Nifty 27DEC 27000 PE (put on the standard Nifty 50 index)

The problem is a correlation mismatch:

  • The Nifty 50 Equal Weight ETF tracks a different index than the standard Nifty 50 — equal weight means smaller stocks have the same weight as large caps, so its behaviour diverges meaningfully from the market-cap-weighted Nifty 50.
  • The Nifty Next 50 ETF tracks the next 50 stocks outside the Nifty 50 — entirely different constituents from the Nifty 50 index your put is based on.
  • Your put hedge is on the standard Nifty 50.

So if the Nifty 50 falls, the put pays off — but your Next 50 and Equal Weight holdings may not fall in lockstep. They could fall more, less, or even move differently. The hedge isn't providing a direct offset for those specific exposures.

It's not a clean hedge — there's significant basis risk here. A more correlated hedge would be puts on the Nifty Next 50 index or the specific ETFs themselves, if available.

about 11 hours ago
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Can you check correlation between Nifty and next 50?

about 11 hours ago
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I don't have Nifty index data in the local database — those are Indian indices. Let me search for publicly available data on their correlation.## Nifty 50 vs Nifty Next 50 — Correlation

The correlation between the Nifty 50 and Nifty Next 50 is approximately ~0.82 (per NSE's own index analytics). NSE has also cited it as 71% with a beta of 0.95 in FY2024 filings — the exact number depends on the measurement period, but both sources confirm the correlation is high but not perfect.

What this means for your hedge

Factor Implication
Correlation ~0.82 They move together ~82% of the time — strongly linked, but there's a ~18% divergence
Beta ~0.95–1.17 Next 50 amplifies moves — it tends to rise more in bull markets and fall harder in downturns
Downside divergence In 10 of 12 negative quarters, Nifty Next 50 fell more than Nifty 50. Average extra decline: ~2–3 percentage points
Drawdowns Next 50 max drawdown: ~-75% vs Nifty 50: ~-55% historically

The practical problem

In a downturn where your Nifty 50 put pays off:

  • If Nifty 50 falls 5%, Next 50 typically falls 6–7%
  • Your put hedges the Nifty 50 leg, but the Next 50 losses outpace it
  • The hedge covers ~90% of the notional, but it doesn't match the composition — so in a sell-off, you could still see net P&L pain because Next 50 and Equal Weight behave differently than the index you're hedged against

The correlation is high enough that the hedge isn't useless, but the basis risk is real — especially in sharp corrections where Next 50 tends to disproportionately underperform.

about 11 hours ago