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GOOG put spread downside protection check

Click to collapse Options security groupOptions Symbol / Name Quantity Price Price Change $ | % Market Value Day Change $ | % Cost Basis Gain / Loss $ | % Ratings Actions GOOG 06/17/2027 200.00 P Quantity-1 Price$2.37 Price Change-5.69% Market Value-$237.00 Day Change-0.28% Cost Basis-$236.34 Gain Loss-0.28% Rating-- Select for available Next Steps for GOOG 06/17/2027 250.00 P Quantity1 Price$8.30 Price Change-8.8% Market Value$830.00 Day Change-8.8% Cost Basis$1,100.66 Gain Loss-24.59% Rating-- -- is my downside protected on this put trade?

about 2 hours ago
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I need to understand your position. You have:

  • Short 1 GOOG Jun 17, 2027 $200 Put (you sold this, collecting $236.34)
  • Long 1 GOOG Jun 17, 2027 $250 Put (you bought this for $1,100.66)

This is a bear put spread — you're positioned for GOOG to decline. Let me pull the latest price and the option chain to assess your risk.The ticker is GOOGL (Alphabet Inc Class A). Let me get the data.Now let me compute the P/L analysis. GOOGL last closed at $319.74 (Jul 24), but the most recent adjusted close is from Jul 25.

Let me look at the latest price more carefully.Good — latest close is $326.56 (Jul 27). Now let me analyze your put spread.


GOOGL Put Spread Analysis (Jun 17, 2027 Expiry)

Position Strike Qty Entry Price Entry Cost Current Mid Current Value
Short Put Sold $200 -1 $2.36 +$236.34 $2.62 -$262
Long Put Bought $250 +1 $11.01 -$1,100.66 $9.05 +$905

GOOGL Last: $326.56


The Core Question: Is Your Downside Protected?

No — your downside is not fully protected. Here's why:

You're in a vertical put spread (long $250 / short $200). This is actually a bullish-to-neutral structure despite using puts — it's a put credit spread when viewed from the short side, but since your long strike is higher, it functions as a debit put spread. Your max risk is defined, but here's the breakdown:

Metric Value
Net Debit Paid $864.32 ($1,100.66 − $236.34)
Max Loss $864.32 (spread is fully in the money at expiry above $250, but debit is your max loss)
Max Loss Scenarios Any close at or above $250 at expiry = both puts expire worthless, you lose the full $864.32
Max Profit $4,135.68 (if GOOGL closes at $200 or below)
Max Profit Formula ($250 − $200) × 100 − $864.32
Breakeven $241.36 (the $250 long strike minus your net debit of $8.64)

The Problem

At $326.56, GOOGL is $76 above your $250 long strike. Both puts are deep out of the money. Your position needs GOOGL to fall over 26% just to reach breakeven at ~$241, and you don't start making money until it drops below that.

The short $200 put provides only $2.36 of premium to offset the $11.01 you paid for the $250 put. It does not materially hedge your downside — it just reduces your net cost by about 21%. The real "downside" here for a put holder is the stock going up or staying flat, and that risk is wide open — you lose your full $864 if GOOGL stays above $250.

If your intent was to protect against a GOOGL decline, this trade is structured correctly in direction but your cost basis is high and the breakeven is far away. If your intent was to generate income, the trade is mis-structured — you'd want to be net short the spread (short the $250, long the $200) instead.

about 2 hours ago
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No. I am betting against google. But I also dont think it will fall below 200

about 2 hours ago
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Got it. So you're bearish on GOOGL but think it won't collapse below $200. Let me re-evaluate the trade with that lens.


GOOGL Put Debit Spread — Bearish View

Position Strike Qty Entry Price Entry Cost
Long Put Bought $250 +1 $11.01 -$1,100.66
Short Put Sold $200 -1 $2.36 +$236.34

Net Debit: $864.32 | GOOGL Last: $326.56


Your Thesis

You're bearish but not apocalyptic — you expect GOOGL to fall but stay above $200 through June 2027. The short $200 put caps your profit but also dramatically reduces your cost basis (from $1,101 to $864), which improves your breakeven.


Yes, the Short Put Protects Your Downside — But Only Partially

The short $200 put does two things for you:

1. It lowers your breakeven. Without it, a standalone $250 put would need GOOGL below $239 ($250 − $11.01). With the short $200 put offsetting $2.36, your breakeven improves to ~$241.36. Small difference, but it helps.

2. It defines your max profit floor. If GOOGL trades at or below $200 at expiry, you make the full $5,000 spread width minus your $864 cost = $4,136 max profit. The short put doesn't reduce that max profit unless GOOGL falls below $200 — and since you don't think that happens, this is an efficient trade-off.


Risk Assessment

Scenario GOOGL at Expiry P/L
Worst case ≥ $250 −$864 (full debit lost)
Breakeven ~$241.36 $0
Partial win $220 +$2,136
Best case (your floor) ≤ $200 +$4,136
Below your floor $180 Still +$4,136 (capped)

Key Risk: Theta Decay Works Against You

Both puts are deep OTM right now. The long $250 put has a delta of −0.14, the short $200 put is −0.05. With ~11 months to expiry, you have time but you're burning ~$0.31/day in net theta (the long decays faster than the short). If GOOGL drifts sideways for months, the spread will bleed.

Bottom line: The short put is doing exactly what you want — it's cutting your cost without capping your profit in the zone you care about ($200–$241). Your downside is defined and limited to $864. The real challenge isn't the structure, it's that GOOGL at $327 needs a meaningful decline to get you into the money.

about 2 hours ago
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But if google crashes to 100 - I dont lose another penny, right?

about 2 hours ago
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Correct. You don't lose another penny below $200.

Your max loss is capped at the net debit of $864.32 no matter how low GOOGL goes — whether it's $100, $50, or zero. The short $200 put is fully covered by your long $250 put, so the spread is defined risk by construction.

At expiry, if GOOGL is at $100:

  • Your long $250 put is worth $150 intrinsic ($250 − $100)
  • Your short $200 put is worth $100 intrinsic ($200 − $100)
  • Net value = $50 per share = $5,000
  • Minus your $864 cost = +$4,136

That's your max profit. Below $200, every dollar the long put gains, the short put gains too — they offset perfectly. Your P/L line goes flat from $200 all the way to zero. You're fully hedged in a crash.

about 2 hours ago